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momma1993
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From: laguna niguel,ca,usa
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posted March 11, 2005 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for momma1993   Click Here to Email momma1993        Reply w/Quote
hi all,
i know this is not symptom related.

i was wondering if anyone has had breast implants and if they have had any unusual problems.

i'm asking because i have this surgery scheduled for 2 weeks from today and i am getting increasingly nervous as the days go by.

MVP is a connective tissue disorder and some doctors believe that all connective tissue in people with MVP might be different than other people without MVP.

being that they place the implants under the muscle (muscle itself is not a connective tissue), my concerns are that my body might respond differently.

i am also concerned about the anesthesia being that it is adrenalin based.

i would really appreciate any input, especially from someone who has had this surgery.

thanks so much,
jennifer

msmerlinsmagic
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posted March 11, 2005 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msmerlinsmagic        Reply w/Quote
Jennifer,

I don't have implants but wanted to send you a slight caution toward the anestheia because I have had some very bad reaction experiences with the medical use of epinephrine. The epi reaction is thought to be a common problem with MVPS. The symptoms of the reaction were paralysis and arrhythmia from tachy to brady before it fortunately wore off and I feared for my life the through the experience. After learning the hard way, I now have procedures done with a Red Flag in my Chart and Strong Words with the attending to not use anything with epinephrine or adrenaline. They even use a premedicating lidocaine without epi. Best Wishes,

Lisa

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momma1993
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posted March 11, 2005 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for momma1993   Click Here to Email momma1993        Reply w/Quote
hi lisa,

that is exactly the concern i have with the anesthesia. i also cannot tolerate an epi based anesthesia. i also have red flags in my dental charts. i allready asked the patient counselor about the adrenaline based anesthesia and told her that i cannot tolerate an epinephrine based anesthesia due to a severe tachycardia response to the drug. she assured me that everyone reacts to epinephrine, but that they have had no problem with the adrenaline based drug.
needless to say i had a hard time swallowing that. that is why i turned to the support group. i am hoping someone has had this procedure and/or has knowledge of adrenaline based anesthesia.
i am really worried that my heart will react negatively and that they will stop the procedure...and i'll still be stuck with the bill.( how vein am I )

...and then there is the worry that my body will react negatively to the implants them selves.

thank you so much for your caring response...i always like to hear what you have to say. your a very smart lady!!

Jennifer

msmerlinsmagic
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posted March 11, 2005 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msmerlinsmagic        Reply w/Quote
Jennifer,

Thanks for the compliment. This is a very simple issue and does not need to be complicated with fear simply because they don't want to stray from their normal epi routine. You are paying for the procedure so you simply do not allow them to give you a drug you are concerned will hurt you. The counselor may have been resistant to you but believe me no Anesthesiologist wants to give you a drug you are going to react badly to. It could hurt business for him! What did Nancy Regan say about drugs? "Just Say No!!" LOL. (another tip about anesthesia is Fentanyl is tolerated better with autonomic nerve problems of MVPS than Morphine) Best Wishes for a Great Bustline and lots of enjoyment of having a better appearance,

Lisa

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momma1993
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posted March 11, 2005 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for momma1993   Click Here to Email momma1993        Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lisa,
I'll call the anesthesiologist personally to discuss other options!
I should have thought of that!!

Jennifer

Princess
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posted March 12, 2005 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
I'm having lipo in several weeks. It's a local (lidocaine). Are there any issues with that drug I should be aware of?

msmerlinsmagic
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posted March 12, 2005 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msmerlinsmagic        Reply w/Quote
Princess,

They use meds with epinephrine in it during cosmetic surgery to reduce swelling and other minor issues. There usually is epinephrine in lidocaine. If you believe you could react badly to stimulants or adrenaline types of meds you can insist they use the alternative medaitions that do not have epinephrine or adrenaline in them. In the lipo procedure there is usually an epi mix that they add to the saline soultion used with the probe for losening the tissue.

Lisa


spiv8
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posted March 13, 2005 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spiv8   Click Here to Email spiv8        Reply w/Quote
momma1993, in december 2003 my friend and fellow MVPSer from this site had a bi-lateral mastectomy. This surgery was several hours long. The two follow up surgeries for reconstruction were done as outpatient and also done with general anesthesia. We both told all the docs about her mvp and sensitivity to the anesthesia and she did wonderfully through all three surgeries. We even had a follow up visit the next morning from an anesthesiologist who also had MVPS and had had the same surgery 10 years prior. My friend is doing great and has had no problems what so ever with her new silicone implants. Good luck with your decision to do this and please don't hesitate to email Patsi (her email is on her profile) if you have any other questions. I answered this post with her permission and blessing.

yellowrose77
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posted March 13, 2005 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yellowrose77        Reply w/Quote
Hi, I got the surgery in 1999, and they are under the muscle as yours will be. I really regret it now - I wish I could just go back to being my old self. I have realized I was beautiful before and let people making fun of me for being small-chested when I was growing up influence a huge decision in my life. So, I hope you are really sure about it! When I had the surgery, I wasn't having any MVP symptoms. The anesthesia didn't really bother me. The only problem I had was waking up and feeling like there were two huge bags of sugar on my chest! The nurse warned me that I may feel strange when I wake up and realize how heavy the implants feel. I was scared because I felt like I couldn't breathe, but it was just the extra weight of the implants I was feeling. I did get really nauseous after the anesthesia started to wear off. I'd love to have these suckers removed or reduced and probably will one day. I'm glad to know there are other options for the anesthesia. Good luck to you!
Stacy

jyanagi
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posted March 13, 2005 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jyanagi   Click Here to Email jyanagi        Reply w/Quote
And... some of us men actually much prefer small chested women. I do. (and I have several friends who say the same). Just something to think about.

But, good luck to you Jennifer, whatever you do.

John

momma1993
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posted March 13, 2005 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for momma1993   Click Here to Email momma1993        Reply w/Quote
first off..thank you John! women like me love men like you!!
second...Stacy, can i ask why you regret the surgery? How big did you become? Have you noticed any trouble that might be related to any conective tissue(tendons,ligiments)? I would really appreciate some input.
Spiv8...thank you so much for your words of encouragement! It is very comforting to hear that a fellow sufferer has actually gone through the procedure with success.May i ask, does she have any regrets?

I knew i would get mixed responses when i posted this topic, but really i feel this is my best chance to recieve the answers i am looking for. i really needed to hear from people that have the same condition i do.

I have actually always been pretty acceptant of how god made me, but this is the one thing that i always thought i might change if ever given the chance(besides MVPS, i can't change that).

a very close friend of mine was just diognosed with terminal bone cancer...which really reminded me of how short life really is.
I an happily married(to a man like John!!), am 35 years old and have 3 beautiful sons, and just decided to do something for myself that i have always thought of doing, but just never did.
I think some times we all get cought up doing everything we HAVE to and forget to do anything we WANT to do.

Thank you to everyone!!!

Jennifer

Princess
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posted March 13, 2005 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
What kinds of alternative medications are there that don't contain epinephrine or adrenaline? Do you know if they are as effective?

msmerlinsmagic
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posted March 13, 2005 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msmerlinsmagic        Reply w/Quote
Princess,

My answer to your first question is "I don't know" and my answer to your second question is "I don't know". If I had even more professions/careers and credentials maybe I could resite them but I don't. I don't think you need to know all the names of the alternative drugs to instruct your doctors with - if your Anesthesiologist doesn't know them - that could be a bad sign. There are several meds that they use in place of lidocaine that don't have epi in it. As far as I know about their affectiveness is that, I have to have them when I get dental work and minor surgery. They must give me more of the drugs without epi because they do not circulate the system as fast. Epinephrine helps deliver the drugs affects fast as it speeds through your metabolism and causes a rise in your heart rate. I would love to have several cosmetic procedures but with the amount of heart rhythm issue I have if the doctors involved in the procedure did not think it was important to protect my heart rhythm or know how to, I would not have the procedure.

Lisa

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Princess
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posted March 13, 2005 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your response. Since all I'm having is a local, there won't be an anesthesiologist present. However, I'm going to contact the surgeon and discuss my concerns with him prior to the procedure. Thank you for you candid reply.

msmerlinsmagic
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posted March 13, 2005 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msmerlinsmagic        Reply w/Quote
Princess,

Your Welcome and Best Wishes,

Lisa


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