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Princess
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posted December 11, 2002 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if anyone has had this problem with Toprol XL and/or Zoloft. I have gained almost 10 pounds since I've started taking these two medications. I haven't changed my eating habits. If anything, they are better than they were. I avoid sugar, caffeine and alcohol. Also, I'm in my late 40s so I could be going through the change, as well. I had my uterus removed, but not my ovaries about 10 years ago. So it's difficult to know if I'm actually going through the change. I haven't had any symptoms such as hot flashes or anything. I'm worried about this weight gain. I fight my weight constantly and gaining weight for no apparent reason is distressing. I'm not sure what to do about it. I'm going to start weaning myself off of the Zoloft. I was taking it to reduce the panic attacks I was experiencing when I first started having bad MVPS symptoms. Now that I've gone through the tests and have been diagnosed with MVP, I feel I can handle everything without the aid of the Zolfot. Not knowing what was happening to me was un-nerving at first. Now that I know my symptoms aren't fatal, I can most likely work through them without the Zoloft. At this point, though, I'd prefer to continue taking the Toprol. It has helped some with the palpations, so I'd like to stick with it for a while. If anyone has any suggestions regarding the weight gain, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

tina47
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posted December 11, 2002 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tina47   Click Here to Email tina47        Reply w/Quote
Go back to a discussion started by sundance 4727 posted Nov.1 on weight gain and inderal. Now I don't know if your meds are beta blockers but the answer given to us by nawchem on Nov. 21st in the same discussion, I put in my diary because it was right on target explaining why we gaining weight on these meds. Just read that and you'll understand everything.
Trust me I know what your going thru.

Princess
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posted December 11, 2002 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I'll do that. I probably didn't pay much attention to that message when it was posted because I wasn't on that brand of medicine. Now I'm interested!!! Yikes!!! This really stinks. You trade one set of problems for a whole new group! I'm glad you know what it's like, but I'm sorry you're having that problem. However, it's nice to know someone understands!

tina47
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From: greece
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posted December 11, 2002 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tina47   Click Here to Email tina47        Reply w/Quote
As a matter of fact to show you how bad my metabolism is I have for 1 month been drinking Herballife morning and evenings and having a normal lunch , nothing great not pigging out just normal. I lost 11 lbs the 1st 2 weeks and haven't lost an ounce , as a matter of fact am playing with 2 lbs now for 2 weeks. How is this possible? I'm so depressed! If I put 1,000 calories in my mouth a day it's allot. So what gives. I'm 47, not metapausing, yet and have always battled to keep my weight in check. This is rediculous. I'm tired and this is not making for a merry chrismas. I looked at all my cookie receipes and put them back just not to eat them. Xmas is hard enough over here but this is really pushing it. And I have cut all chocolate and sugar out of my diet for at least 4 months now. I wish someone would come up with a pill that would take all this away, the weight the MVP the skips and jumps and all the other rotten systoms I deal with.
Write me anytime. Love to know I'm not alone.
Isn't this site the best!

Princess
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posted December 11, 2002 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
I know exactly what you mean. I have been following Atkins to the letter. I haven't cheated once! And, I know I'm not eating 1000 calories a day either. And Christmas makes this so hard. Everyone is eating chocolate, cookies and etc. and I can't join them for any of it. And they don't seem to understand that one piece of candy or one crummy cookie will just start a cycle going all over again of palps, and etc. And as you said, menopause has nothing to do with it. I doubt if I'm in menopause, either. I notice you're in Greece. Is that where you're from? And you're right...they seem to have pills that fix one thing and mess up something else. Dealing with the symptoms are one thing. I'm handling that as best as possible. But the weight gain is depressing me more than you can imagine. I'm worried about how much I'll gain before it stops. And I'm even more worried I won't be able to get it off. I wasn't really overweight to start with. But now I'm at least 10 pounds over where I should be - and probably gaining! Feel free to write to me anytime, as well. Would you rather if I used the email address you supplied on this site? And I agree...this site is great. I never would have hooked up with so many people that can understand what we're going through. Thanks!

Kes
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posted December 11, 2002 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kes        Reply w/Quote
This is a really hard time of the year to watch what you are eating. I went out for lunch yesterday with friends and couldn't find a safe thing to eat on the menu except for a generic side salad, sigh.

I am starting an early menopause, and although normally thin, I find I have gained fifteen pounds in the past year. My eating habits have not changed either. So perhaps Princess it could be the first signs of middle age menopause for you?

Princess
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posted December 11, 2002 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
How depressing of a thought! I'm ONLY in my 40's! I thought menopause happened to really old women!!!!! I guess I now qualify! I'm sure it's many things working against me (i.e. the medication, my age, menopause). However, as I said, the weight gain is more upsetting to me right now than the MVPS symptoms. Well...maybe not more upsetting! But you know what I mean. It's just one more thing my body is doing to me! My weight was one thing I thought I had under control. I had to work to stay in shape and to maintain a healthy weight. But I didn't mind because I always saw results. Now it doesn't matter how much I diet or exercise, the weight just won't come off (but it certainly comes on easily enough). And, as you mentioned, this time of year really makes it difficult. I was a chocoholic of the worst kind before I was diagnosed with MVP several months ago. I was also addicted to diet colas. So having to give all of that up cold turkey was bad enough. But having chocolate Santas calling my name from every store shelf is downright un-nerving! I'm so thankful that I have people out there like you guys who I can vent to that understand what I'm going through. I know this is going to be a tough time of my life. Dealing with the MVP and MVPS, plus my addictions to chocolate and caffeine are really going to test my strength. But thanks to you guys, I know I'll have support, compassion and understanding when I need it. And, any time I can, I will return the favor!!! Thanks!

tina47
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posted December 12, 2002 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tina47   Click Here to Email tina47        Reply w/Quote
I haven't laughted that hard in a few days. You hit the nail right on the head.
Not to dampen you spirits I figured I gained 2 lbs a month on average without changing my eating habits. So don't scream it doesn't go away. I think we will be on diets for the rest of our lives.
Now nawchem explains as follows: propanol(beta blockers) is the most common med. to cause weight gain. 2 reasons 1st it works on the beta cells in your pancreas causing it to release higher levels of insulin. Insulin sweeps glocuse out of your blood stream and the result is that your body thinks it's time to eat again when you blood sugar drops. So you experience increased hunger for sugery foods and when your insulin levels are high your in a fat storage mode. It also slows your metablosm it decrease the amount of thyroid hormone available to your body.
Go to the whole discussion we are not alone.
By the way I am Italian american who fell hoplessly inlove with a Greek and moved to Greece 18 years ago. We live in a small town, Kastoria on a lake in the mountains of northern Greece. I'm 47 3 kids 11 to 17.
And beleive me I don't envy you all for having to get thru the Xmas candy isle. Thank God we don't have anyhting like that here. People are lucky to buy bread never mind chocolate santas.
Write me anytime and lets just try to be good, not cheat and if we do it's just for the moment, not to beat ourselves up for being human. Tomorrow is a new day.
What is the Atkins diet like?

Princess
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posted December 12, 2002 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
Hi! Atkins is low carb/high fat. No sugar, no pasta, no bread, etc. You can have cheese, eggs, meat, whipping cream, etc. You're not hungry because the fat fills you up. The diet has been around for quite a while and it works! Of course, we have additional obstacles in our way. So the fight is that much harder. But we'll manage. We have to!!! I just hope I can keep my resolve the closer it gets to Christmas. I'm afraid I'll just go face down into the cookie tray on Christmas Day! Anyway, feel free to email if you ever need encouragement: bonnieb1@prodigy.net Thanks for your support. I really need and appreciate it!

opus88
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posted December 12, 2002 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for opus88   Click Here to Email opus88        Reply w/Quote
I had to follow something very close to the Atkins Diet for 4 months a few years ago, and without trying, I lost 10 pounds that I didn't need to lose. But it wasn't until I cut out the cheese that the weight really started to drop - and the bloating went away, too.

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Princess
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posted December 12, 2002 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
I've noticed that even Atkins isn't working right now. That Toprol is really doing a number on me. But, I'm going to try and eliminate the cheese on my diet and see if that helps. I haven't been having all that much of it, but maybe a little is all I need to sabatoge my diet. At this point, I'm willing to try anything. I can't afford to gain any more weight. I used to be really heavy and I don't want to get there again. And, if I keep gaining weight from this medication, I'm afraid that's what is going to happen. I don't want to have to make a choice between the Toprol and keeping the weight off (or losing what I've gained since I've started taking it). Being heavy really did a number on my self esteeem and self image. I was depressed all the time because I was so unhappy with myself. And considering I have enough symptoms with the MVPS, I don't need to add depression to the mix!!! So...out with the cheese! Thanks for the advice. I'm going to try it!

tina47
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posted December 13, 2002 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tina47   Click Here to Email tina47        Reply w/Quote
I always was considered a "big" girl at a size 14jr. because my older sister was a size 5 I now look at the 14 jr. in the closet and can't believe that I let the whole world make me feel fat. Meanwhile after my pregnancy I did actually gain a considerable amount of weight and only recently lost allot of it. Then I went on the Beta's and wham, 26 lbs in a year. 11 are off but it still 15 lbs is another 2 sizes. My best friend in the states is a doctor and she believes that we all have a set point weight that our body functions confortably at and once your heavy it's really hard to maintain anyother weight. I have met many people who have disproved that but their whole life is a diet. They eat like mice. I can't do that.
Tomorrow is my daughter 13th birthday and I made brownies and chocolate chip cookies today. What I can't try 1. God, give me a break, it's not like I eat them everyday or even once a month and here I am feeling guilty and confession like I'm in church. It's not a fun way to get through life but unless they come up with a "you can eat anything" pill this is my life and sometimes I can deal with it and dod what I have to but there are other days where I can just scream!
Good news my heart didn't go off which was a blessing!
Hey did you try feta, it's suppose to be low in fat compared to most cheeses? It's great with a tomato salad!

Princess
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posted December 13, 2002 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Princess        Reply w/Quote
I love feta! In fact, I love most Greek food - especially saganaki! That's my favorite (along with the chicken breast stuffed with spinach and feta!). This is really helping us, isn't it? Let's keep talking about brownies, cookies, stuffed chicken breasts, etc. We'll be mainlining chocolate syrup if we don't watch out! I know I'm going to have a hard time losing the weight I've gained from the betas. But I'm going to try my hardest not to gain any more. And I know what you mean about the cookies. We should be able to have one. But then I won't want one...I'll want a carload full. And then the cravings will start all over again! And, just keep in mind, that just because you didn't get any symptoms from eating a couple of brownies or cookies doesn't mean you won't get them next time. And remember how awful you feel (not to mention frightened) when those symptoms really kick up! Better to be safe than sorry...stay away from the Gingerbread Men! They are your enemy! I hope you have a great time at the party. Try to enjoy yourself, but watch what you eat. Keep thinking...is it worth it? Let me know how you do. I'll be thinking about you!

CareBear63
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posted December 14, 2002 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CareBear63        Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me if eating sugar free cookies or candy occasionally is okay for us? About one month ago I cut out as much sugar from my diet as possible. It's hard, because it seems like just about everything has a little bit of sugar in it. I've become a label reader now. I feel like I have been going through sugar withdrawals. I feel irritable and impatient towards people at times, and that is not my usual nature. Last night when I was out Christmas shopping, I did buy a bag of sugar free black licorice and a bag of sugar free lemon sandwich cookies.

opus88
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posted December 14, 2002 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for opus88   Click Here to Email opus88        Reply w/Quote
We're all different. But the majority of MVPS people cannot tolerate sugar OR artificial sweetener. And I will venture an assumption here and say that most of those who SAY they are ok with those things don't realize how it is affecting them, because they have felt crummy for so long that the way they feel seems normal.
For me, I am intolerant of both. I have been sugar-free and sweetener-free for years, but that also includes no corn syrup, no sugar alcohols (the "-itol" ingredients like mannitol, sorbitol, etc.), no fructose, etc.
Yes, I know how very difficult it is, but I've been doing it for nearly 15 years now. I'm just stubborn enough and determined enough to avoid anything that may bring on a symptom. That means eating before I go to a party, and then taking things along that I can eat, which usually means either white cheese or popcorn. (I don't do well with the colorings in cheese, either). And I just drink water, no alcohol. It's just not worth feeling worse for days because of one moment of eating something sweet. (And makes me the designated driver, which is safer than letting either of us drive after having alcohol.)
Stick with it - be strong. The withdrawal will pass, but if you cheat, it will only prolong the discomfort. Trust me - it will be worth it.


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